Sometimes the spin-off is better than the original. Spin-offs have brought us shows like The Jeffersons and Laverne & Shirley, often making us forget they weren’t the original show at all.
But for every Frasier, there’s five Rob & Chynas, shows that no one wanted and very few liked. It’s especially bad in the reality TV world, where production is so cheap it’s easier for producers to take a risk.
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So here are some of those spin-offs that didn’t have quite the cultural impact (or ratings) their networks intended.
‘Rob and Chyna’
Rob and Chynaย is one of the most recent instances of total spin-off failures we can think of.
When Blacย Chynaย and Rob Kardashianย were first rumored to be dating, fans freaked out at the creepy Kardashianย love triangle it created, as the modelย was dating her ex Tyga’s new girlfriend’s older brother.
Then when Chynaย announced she was pregnant withย Kardashian’s baby – that threw in some possible aunt/stepmomย relations and people were hooked.
But in the end, the awkward family dynamics didn’tย make watching the couple scream at each other for an hour worth it, and the relatively high viewership the first couple episodes had dwindled to 0.95 million by baby Dream’s birth special.
The two have since had a very messy break-up, which has included a lawsuit against the whole Kardashianย family and a protectiveย order against the father of one, so it’s unlikely there will be a second season of the spin-off. But, maybe that’s for the best.
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‘Counting On’
When the Duggarย family first made it to TV withย 17 Kids and Counting,ย people were fascinated by their super conservative beliefs and huge family.
But as the babies kept coming (and the title kept changing), some people started to feel the family was a bit off, criticizing their treatment of women and opinions on social issues.ย
The family’s controversy came to a head in 2015, when claims thatย eldest son Josh had sexually molestedย four of his sisters became public. Production immediately shut down on the show and the series was soon canceled.ย
When the audience demanded more Duggars, TLCย brought back what was essentially the same show (sans Josh) inย Counting On.ย But even without Josh, the series feels tainted.
‘The Real Housewives of D.C.’
It feels like there are a millionย Real Housewivesย spin-offsย on at this point, all spawning from the original Orange County chapter.
Most aren’t great, except for standouts like Atlanta, New Jersey and newcomerย Dallas, but all have devoted fan groups who watch the ladies’ moves–most of which include wine–incredibly closely.
Oneย series stands out, however.ย The Real Housewives of D.C.ย only lasted one season, after all the political talk turned viewers who were trying to get AWAY from the news off.ย
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‘Teen Mom’
What started off as a PSAย warning against teen pregnancy has evolved into a screaming mess of brats–and we’re not just talking about the kids.
When MTV first launchedย 16 and Pregnantย in 2009, they were heralded by teen pregnancy advocates as depicting a realistic look at how hard it is to be a teen parent.
But as the girls have grown into women, sparking the spin-offsย Teen Mom, Teen Mom 2, Teen Mom 3, Teen Mumย andย Teen Mom OG, the episodesย have become less about teen pregnancy and more about a group of women who have made a ton of money off of an MTVย show yellingย at each other and their kids.ย
Some viewers complain that as the show has progressed, it’s glorifying getting pregnant young.
‘Bachelor Pad’
Before there wasย Bachelor in Paradise, there wasย Bachelor Pad.
The Bachelor Nation spin-off show was a combination of the dating shows with a more traditional game show format and featured contestants from past seasons ofย The Bachelorย andย The Bacheloretteย competing for $250,000.
There was a bit of a dating element to the show, but not enough to keep people’s interest. The show only aired from 2010-2012 and two years later was rebranded and revitalized asย Bachelor in Paradise,ย which has avoided its predecessor’s foibles by focusing on the love stories and staying away from physical challenges.